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May 24, 2003

Before I begin, NO, I'm not bashing Christians. I'm ranting on people who don't back up their arguments.

In June of 2000, I found a typically over-the-top "why roleplaying games are evil" article which cited kids who played them murdering others and committing suicide. Now, let's be honest - if that shit happened in our media-driven society, wouldn't it be all over the news? But what made me particularly annoyed was the fact was no where in the bibliography were the sources of these "facts."

So I emailed the minister in charge of the site - and yes, my original email was REALLY testy. And while he didn't say the idea was "stupid," he did deny there was any such article on his site. (Yes, I did remove his email address - HOWEVER, it's not hard to find if you REALLY want to discuss this with him - the URL is left in the emails. However, if you do, please don't flame, attack or threaten him - be better than that. My original email is very aggressive and, if I knew then what I knew now, it would have been calmer. I was polite, but polite with an edge of wanting a reason to jump at the recipient, which is inappropriate and incidentally, I don't normally consider posting private emails as being polite so I generally don't, so this shouldn't end up as a frequest thing):


Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 09:51:04 -0400 (EDT)
From: Randal Milholland
To: [snip]
Subject: Games People Play

Dear sirs,

I am curious about this "Games They Teach Our Children" section of your site. It lists many "documented" cases of suicides and murders linked to Dungeons and Dragons. Where are these cases documented? Can you point me to any new periodical these stories were printed in? I'm assuming you can, and would be so kind as to do so, since it would be inherently wrong to post heresay.

Of course, it hasn't stopped most "Christian" organizations from doing so. Over the years, I've seen many articles posted on the evils of Dungeons and Dragons, and whenever I ask the author to see the legal reports or new articles, or even then names of those involved, I have received nothing but a runaround. It has begun to make me think that they didn't really know. I remember, in high school, the various witnessing students warning me to steer clear because their minister said roleplaying games killed. when I asked on person in particular, a student by the name of Matt Thompson, whom it had killed, all he did was shrug. He told me his minister had been told by someone else. No doubt, the person who told him had been told by someone else.

Isn't that sort of a dangerous thing? Just passing along information and not knowing the source? Not being able to critique it? People have a tendancy to change the facts as they pass them along - and not necessarily intentionally, but they do.

And, of course, there are those people who spread blatant lies - and sometimes in the name of God. Please know I'm not accusing you, nor saying all Christians do - but there are some blatant cases. Mike Warnke, for example, who had been a childhood hero of mine. He'd told of his inspiring story of how he received Jesus while in Vietnam, after he spent years as a drug user and a Satanic high priest. Of course, that was before a few fellow Christians actually got curious and delved his past, and learned he'd not really gone to Vietnam, and had never come into contact with any Satanic cult. I would like to think his intentions for making these stories up were good, for the betterment of God's message - but it doesn't matter in the end. A lie is a lie, and it ruins trust.

So you can see why I'm just a bit critical of this article. For years, no one has been able to point me to a real news source. All I ever get is, "Well, I was told by...." So please give me factual news sources, such as periodicals or crime reports that I can reference. Please do not give me Bible verses or a Jack Chick tract. The verses, while inspiring they may be, are not periodicals and do not prove that a 17-year-old Texas boy walked onto his drama classroom stag, put a sawed-off shotgun to his head, and fired. I find this particular story suspect since I lived in Texas my entire life, and am now just within months of the age 25. I would have surely heard about this story if it had, in fact, happened. But I haven't. No one I know has, either. I've asked people who work with news papers and archives, and no one can point me to it.

So please give me your response. I hope that you can direct me to the correct sources, and that you were not like everyone else and simply posted "what someone else told" you.

Sinccerely,

Randal Milholland




Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 23:32:39 +1000
From: Anthony Grigor-Scott [snip]
To: Randal Milholland
Subject: Re: Games People Play

Dear Brother Randal Milholland,
Christian greetings in the precious Name of our Lord Jesus Christ.
> Dear sirs,

> I am curious about this "Games They Teach Our Children" section of your
> site. It lists many "documented" cases of suicides and murders linked to
> Dungeons and Dragons. Where are these cases documented? Can you point me
> to any new periodical these stories were printed in? I'm assuming you
> can, and would be so kind as to do so, since it would be inherently wrong
> to post heresay.

What on earth are you talking about? There is NO such section on our Site! NEVER has been, NEVER will be.

[snipping out large section of him quoting my original email because he doesn't reply to any of it]

Yours sincerely in the love and service of our Lord Jesus Christ.

Your brother-in-Christ,

Anthony Grigor-Scott

MINISTER OF THE GOSPEL

http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/




Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 10:56:07 -0400 (EDT)
From: Randal Milholland
To: Anthony Grigor-Scott [snip]
Subject: Re: Games People Play

I'm sorry, but your site does in fact have this article. The web address is as follows:

http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/aonc06.htm

"THE GAMES THEY TEACH OUR CHILDREN" - Chapter Five of Assault on Childhood, by Alan Gourley. Your URL is also on the bottom of each page. The text is hosts, and distributed from your site.

Randal




Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 01:25:10 +1000
From: Anthony Grigor-Scott [snip]
To: Randal Milholland
Subject: Re: Games People Play

Dear Brother Randal Milholland,

Christian greetings in the precious Name of our Lord Jesus Christ.

Correct. And I stand with Alan Gourley AGAINST these games.

Yours sincerely in the love and service of our Lord Jesus Christ.

Your brother-in-Christ,

Anthony Grigor-Scott

MINISTER OF THE GOSPEL

http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/




Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 11:43:55 -0400 (EDT)
From: Randal Milholland
To: Anthony Grigor-Scott [snip]
Subject: Re: Games People Play

Dear sir,

I am not questioning your stance. If you re-read my original letter, you will find I am asking you for references. I would like to know where I can read actually documentation of these suicides and/or murders which have been attributed to Dungeons and Dragons. So far, I've been completely unable to find any proof they exist in any periodical or crime report.

If you are unable to provide this, could you please give me some way to contact the author of the article.

Randal




Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 22:39:13 +1000
From: Anthony Grigor-Scott ags
To: Randal Milholland
Subject: Re: Games People Play

Dear Brother Randal Milholland,

Christian greetings in the precious Name of our Lord Jesus Christ.

My apologies. Write an e-mail to Alan Gourley who is the author and will be pleased to hear from you. [email removed because - well, ask Anthony for it]

Yours sincerely in the love and service of our Lord Jesus Christ.

Your brother-in-Christ,

Anthony Grigor-Scott

MINISTER OF THE GOSPEL

http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/

I did, by the way, email Mr. Gourley. If he replied, i got lost in the constant hllish shuffle of my email box (yes, my email box has always been a shamble - but back then it was because of my Ed Gein website) but somehow, I doubt he did - although I was considerably more polite in my request for info.

I feel better now. -R
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